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jes1111

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jes1111 said:
I'm sure the FS700 has a LANC interface- Google for "RC LANC" and similar.
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I was a bit brief and this maybe got skipped over when discussion turned to motors. I'm very interested in the idea of controlling at least REC start/stop on a video camera. This FS700 should have a LANC connection (or I think Sony now call it "A/V"). It's usually a very small D-shaped multipin plug/socket which combines the LANC (control) lines with composite video out. Droider was looking for the combo cable recently: http://www.multirotorforums.com/showthread.php?5491-Sony-Lanc-AV-cables

This would enable to trigger the super-slo-mo at just the right time (without foodling about with a servo) - I'd be super-interested to know if can be made to work.
 

DucktileMedia

DucktileMedia

Drone Enthusiast
In this corner we have the medium weight champion of Japan...the FS700........and in the other corner the never defeated World Champion Graaaaaviiiity! C'mon insurance, fly baby FLY! If i told the insurance agency I am a pornographer would that reduce my costs? Little did they know I am gonna be the first to make slow motion aerial porn!


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3dheliguy

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Lol, Awe man that kills me. The Undefeated world Champion "Gravity". After that comment I wouldn't trust you with my Go Pro camera. Who did you have to Swindle to get insurance for that... But I got to admit I wish I could buy me one of those little cmaeraaaass.
 


DucktileMedia

DucktileMedia

Drone Enthusiast
Nothing special, just the Bart'O copter XY8 model identifier XY8FS700c. I think it's possible Bart and I are the only ones with the XY8 configuration but I am really impressed with everything about it. Crap, what was I typing? that damn Carl's Jr. commercial just came on with those 2 hot chicks in daisy dukes. Oh yeah, XY8 is great. I was just seeing how it fit in the AV200 and it doesnt really balance well. The bottom of the FS700 has tons of screw mount locations but none of them are well balanced positions with a light lens. So I think some other holes need to be drilled or ideally a second vibration plate that is custom made to attach just forward of the av200 stock cradle. I'll definitely be sure to post anything that comes from flying it. it may be a while though as we are trying to get a blanket insurance coverage through the same broker that insures my main business. Could be pricey and may not happen.
 

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nobrainer

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Hello all, just registered to take part of this interesting discussion about making the fs700 fly.

I'm just trying to make my CS8/CS360 gimbal combo fly this cam without hitting any limits. I actually already made the maiden flight with this cam and came to conclusion that I might need better efficiency in form of different motors. I'm currently using Tiger motor 2814 710kv with APC 14x4,7 in combination of 4s 10000mah lipo and standard mikrokopter esc's. The cam weights just about 1950g/4,3lbs with the sony 18-55mm oss lens. My total setup weights about 6,7kg/14,7lbs and I'm still missing video downlink and radian units. I agree that the mounting holes under the cam are in a bit strange location but I was able to get the cam almost in level sawing longer tubes for my cs360 gimbal. For triggering the record I'm using the Stratosnapper IR remote from littlesmarthings and it's working perfectly for both normal speed and super slo mo.

I was able to hover with about 60% gas and got about 5mins of flight time. I think that running another battery in parallel isn't really an option here and I would be better of using different kind of motors. The best thing would be if I wouldn't need to change my batteries to 5s or 6s, only the motors/props combo. I think the 5mins flight time is really not an issue but I'm scared that I'm running too much on the limits. Any ideas on optimizing this setup?

For IrisAerial: getting the insurance for the copter/camera combo wasn't that hard here in Finland. Just needed to give them the models of our equipment and they gave the price pretty fast. For about 20k euros of equipment the annual payment was about 700 euros and the part of own risk something close to 1000 euros. Just to give you some idea.

Here's a pic of the fs700 hanging under the cs8

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...and first clip from the maiden flight (50p): https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12790890/1test.mp4
 

AerialVue

AerialVue

CAA Registered Company
I would be interested to know editing software you are using and what re-wrapping software you are using/recommend

AV
 

Benjamin Rowland

Benjamin Rowland

Member
Thanks for the tips here. I went ahead and purchased a Stratosnapper today for an upcoming shoot with a FS700 because of your recommendation - looks like a nice piece of gear.


nobrainer said:
Hello all, just registered to take part of this interesting discussion about making the fs700 fly.

I'm just trying to make my CS8/CS360 gimbal combo fly this cam without hitting any limits. I actually already made the maiden flight with this cam and came to conclusion that I might need better efficiency in form of different motors. I'm currently using Tiger motor 2814 710kv with APC 14x4,7 in combination of 4s 10000mah lipo and standard mikrokopter esc's. The cam weights just about 1950g/4,3lbs with the sony 18-55mm oss lens. My total setup weights about 6,7kg/14,7lbs and I'm still missing video downlink and radian units. I agree that the mounting holes under the cam are in a bit strange location but I was able to get the cam almost in level sawing longer tubes for my cs360 gimbal. For triggering the record I'm using the Stratosnapper IR remote from littlesmarthings and it's working perfectly for both normal speed and super slo mo.

I was able to hover with about 60% gas and got about 5mins of flight time. I think that running another battery in parallel isn't really an option here and I would be better of using different kind of motors. The best thing would be if I wouldn't need to change my batteries to 5s or 6s, only the motors/props combo. I think the 5mins flight time is really not an issue but I'm scared that I'm running too much on the limits. Any ideas on optimizing this setup?

For IrisAerial: getting the insurance for the copter/camera combo wasn't that hard here in Finland. Just needed to give them the models of our equipment and they gave the price pretty fast. For about 20k euros of equipment the annual payment was about 700 euros and the part of own risk something close to 1000 euros. Just to give you some idea.

Here's a pic of the fs700 hanging under the cs8

larva.jpg


...and first clip from the maiden flight (50p): https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12790890/1test.mp4
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Benjamin Rowland

Benjamin Rowland

Member
I just ran a quick test this evening. I strapped a 5 pound plate to my gimbal (approximate weight of FS700+lens), wired up two 11,000mah MaxAmps batteries (4s) and got about 14 minutes of flight time. Looks like we'll be flying a FS700 very soon.
 

kloner

kloner

Aerial DP
there goes the neighborhood

Hey yuri, did you ever post any of that gunpowder and breaking plates to the tube?
 

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Tabb Firchau

Member
Please be careful with Deans connectors...they might not be enough to safely handle the current draw this heavy lifter is capable of demanding. I recommend EC5's on such aircraft.

Best,

Tabb
 





SMP

SMP

Member
Iris, was that at 240fps @1080P?? Absolutely jawdropping beautiful slo mo - How was the autofocus or are you locked off at infinity??

(ahhh went back and re-read, all manual focus unless emount glass) :(
 
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jes1111

Active Member
ChrisViperM said:
Yeah...they are not that cheap....but with them you can fly to the moon. The best stuff you can get at the moment....

...and cheaper than that Anderson Power Pole crimpy wimpy stuff....

Chris
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Errr... no! Much more expensive than PowerPoles!

But let's talk some common sense here. PRC6 connectors (6mm bullets) are designed for 8AWG wire. As I've been trying to get across in another thread you should choose your connector to suit the wire you are using. And your wire choice is determined by the amperage requirements. 8AWG is really bulky, heavy and difficult to work with. 10AWG is a practical top limit for wire size - it's enough to carry the full current that you'll be pulling from a single 5000mAh pack. There is no point in having a connector that can carry more current than the wire. If you need to pull more amps than a 10AWG wire can handle then you should run multiple parallel packs, each with its 10AWG feed going all the way to the common distribution point (power board or soldered spider). This is why I don't rate the 10,000 and 11,000mAh packs that are appearing now - you'll be pulling too much current through one pair of wires. The Maxamps 11000mAh comes with 12AWG wires!!!!!!!!! That's an accident waiting to happen!

So the real question is what connectors are a "match" for 10AWG? - IMO EC5, 5mm bullets or Anderson PP45. Of these, the PP45 is my choice - for all the reasons I've laid out in the above linked thread. :)
 

DucktileMedia

DucktileMedia

Drone Enthusiast
SMP said:
Iris, was that at 240fps @1080P?? Absolutely jawdropping beautiful slo mo - How was the autofocus or are you locked off at infinity??

(ahhh went back and re-read, all manual focus unless emount glass) :(
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Yes that was 240@1080. It's good for human movement but not enough for projectile or fracturing shots. 480@720 is pretty good though. 960 is unfortunately not useable unless it was for analyzing something. Although one could maybe get away with a picture in picture shot. And it eats time like crazy! We dropped a wine glass at 960 and it took 12 minutes on the Sd card file just to get to the point we started to drop it. Nuts.
 

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Helirazor

Member
Yeah don't use deans, learn't that one.
We are building the new SJ8 and have decided to use smaller motors than our previous axi 4120 we use on our AD8HL, to 2826/12 on a 4s setup solely for weight saving. Has anyone else used these motors? Thinking of using Xoar 15-5inch props.
Man we were only getting 4.30 mins out of our power hungry AD8 with the FS700 14 min would be a dream.
 

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