johnno
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No I don't, but I do have a YS-X6 and a YS-X4 and I sell the Steadi470
Rob what's the X4 like in comparison to the X6 I know there are differences in features but the basic stability and handling? john.
No I don't, but I do have a YS-X6 and a YS-X4 and I sell the Steadi470
Rob what's the X4 like in comparison to the X6 I know there are differences in features but the basic stability and handling? john.
Were you trying to take off in Manual mode or GPS mode? In any of the modes, the slightly off balance created by the gimbal should not have an impact.
If you takeoff in Manual mode, what I do is check the which way it is going to lift, and then as I takeoff, I compensate by moving the sticks. If you try and takeoff slowly, it may tip over.
If you takeoff in GPS mode, it should compensate as you takeoff and you should not have a roll over.
Yes, I find with most of these Flight Controllers, the faster you take off the better. I did try to compensate with, in this case left forward stick (in manual mode) but couldn't stop the roll overs. Some of the descriptions on the switch positions I find a bit confusing. The modes I have on my 3 position switches are: Manual, Manual Attitude, Auto Hovering, Auto Navigation and Back Landing. I assume that Auto Hovering is the GPS mode? Auto Navigation is for setting waypoints? And Back Landing is for Return to Home? Am I correct?
The gimbal was pretty vertical when I tried taking off with the weight - shouldn't have caused an issue. I will try taking off in GPS mode once I am sure that it is in fact the same as auto hover. Thanks.
Were you trying to take off in Manual mode or GPS mode? In any of the modes, the slightly off balance created by the gimbal should not have an impact.
If you takeoff in Manual mode, what I do is check the which way it is going to lift, and then as I takeoff, I compensate by moving the sticks. If you try and takeoff slowly, it may tip over.
If you takeoff in GPS mode, it should compensate as you takeoff and you should not have a roll over.
Yes, I find with most of these Flight Controllers, the faster you take off the better. I did try to compensate with, in this case left forward stick (in manual mode) but couldn't stop the roll overs. Some of the descriptions on the switch positions I find a bit confusing. The modes I have on my 3 position switches are: Manual, Manual Attitude, Auto Hovering, Auto Navigation and Back Landing. I assume that Auto Hovering is the GPS mode? Auto Navigation is for setting waypoints? And Back Landing is for Return to Home? Am I correct?
The gimbal was pretty vertical when I tried taking off with the weight - shouldn't have caused an issue. I will try taking off in GPS mode once I am sure that it is in fact the same as auto hover. Thanks.
Hi Jim This was taken straight from the manual:
Position 3.
GPS Mode (Auto Mode), please check the instruction of CH6
position showing as blow to activate the sub modes in GPS Mode. Also can
operate this way: after capturing the middle position of the craft before takeoff,
set CH5 to position 3 and CH6 to position 1, then push THR stick and the craft
can take off automatically immediately.
It looks as though you can vertually take off without any input apart from throttle......Now I have 2 questions I powered my beast up and the Gymbal servos were chattering like crazy I have read somewhere about this but cant remember where so I disconnected for time being and powered up again getting 3 red flashes followed by 1 white what does this mean anyone?? John.
Some of the descriptions on the switch positions I find a bit confusing. The modes I have on my 3 position switches are: Manual, Manual Attitude, Auto Hovering, Auto Navigation and Back Landing. I assume that Auto Hovering is the GPS mode? Auto Navigation is for setting waypoints? And Back Landing is for Return to Home? Am I correct?
-Manual Mode 1 (Ch 5 switch pos 1 / Ch 6 switch pos 1) is actually Attitude mode and is perfect to fly with and take off with. I mostly take off and land in this mode
-Manual Mode 2(Ch 5 switch pos 2/Ch 6 switch pos 1) is actually Altitude mode.....I have found this to not work too well and sometimes could cause problems. It is not needed as you can accomplish everything with GPS mode, so IMO ignore this mode all together.
-GPS Mode(Ch 5 switch pos 3/Ch 6 switch pos 1) A lot of people only fly in this mode
So either take off in Manual Mode 1 or GPS Mode. The throttle movements in GPS mode are exaggerated and if you switch over from GPS mode to Manual mode 1, be prepared to add some throttle because it will drop, and also ensure that when you do switch over, that your throttle position is at least a 50%. because if it is less than 20%, it will switch the motors off (this is a safety feature)
Cheers
Rob
Hi Rob, Correct me on this but I read that channel 6 didnt come into action until channel 5 was in position 3? , where your saying that 5/2 & 6/1 is man mode 2 or altitude mode, I am somewhat confused, and you reckon that a lot of people fly in 5/3 & 6/1? is that just being super cautious or what, can you tell me about my chattering Gymbal servos and my led that flashes red 3 times then 1 white. John.
Channel 6 does not come into play until you switch ch 5 to switch 3. I have got so used to writing that way, because it drums into peoples minds that they must not have ch 6 in any other position unless they intend using it. Can you imagine have ch 6 in sw 2 position and you by accident switch 5 to sw 3. If you have not set up your waypoints correctly your quad could decide to go and visit China.
Why are you confused? Altitude mode is Ch5 sw 2
A number of people fly in GPS mode because it flies well and you get the nest of both worlds. Altitude hold and pos hold.
Cant help about you servos chattering? or the lights. They change the light meanings often, and I have lost track. I think it is in the manual.
I too am still confused about how to find gps mode- manual says it is there but I don't see anything called gps -- maybe auto hover?
Johnno
The servo chattering was pronounced on my 470 too. I was able to get rid of it by lowering the gimbal settings in the parameters menu (PTZ roll, PTZ pitch). Suggest you start at a value of 5 and increment up from there. Ensure the gimbal is fully balanced in all attitudes before parameters are tuned and you should be good to go.
Finally have my 470 flying and filming. Very happy with the NEX5 and the 470 gimbal system. Once I found the ball park for the flight parameters, fine tuning was easy. Now adding a remote (rc) switch for the NEX5, and high res CCD camera and 500mw transmitter for video.
All in all while it took a while to setup, and tune but it was worth it.
Mark
Johnno
Send me a PM and I will get you the parameter screens from my GSC (if you have any interest). Getting these parameter settings close to begin with will save you a couple of weeks of tweaking (and or crashes). Using the parameters as shipped, for me anyway, resulted in a multirotor that was VERY unstable and would literally fall over (fall out of the air) as the FC was not authoritative enough.
I was fortunate that I took the whole test flight process very slowly and all of my incidents did not damage the 470. I was also fortunate to already have a flying YS-X6 multi rotor so I knew the FC would work well once configured correctly. I can see someone not taking the same slow and low testing approach and having a major problem.
I now have a stable and reliable multi rotor that I can fly with confidence, while I have not flow in a strong wind yet, it does handle a stiff breeze (10 knots or so) very well. I have posted a quick video for you to let you know that on the other side of this process you can have a great multirotor that shoots stable high quality images.
Here is the short video from my Steadi470, https://vimeo.com/55812975
(I know seeing other folks video helped keep me going when I was working my way through this process
Mark
John
I am using NTSC on the NEX5, the video resolution was changed (lowered) to post to vimeo, the full resolution better. I was attempting to show the stability of the Steadi470 gimbal.
The parameter settings between my YS-X6 and the Steadi470 in my case are very different. My YS-X6 FC is currently mounted on a F550, I am sure the airframe alone is driving much of this difference in the associated parameter settings.
I was however amazed how far off the out of the box FC parameter setting were on the Seadi470 as compared to where I am now. I have just received a power management module from Zerouav that I am installing on the 470, I am therefore rewiring the power distribution leads on the 470. Once I get it back together (next day or so) I will send you my parameter settings.
Mark
Thanks Mark
That makes sense (no wonder they were not working as they are not getting power). It is odd though as theer is power supplied to the AP on the other side of the box at the P connector next to the LED one.
Now I was advised to cut the power wire on all ESC connectors; how annoying! I'll have to put together a new connector for M1 ESC.
Thanks
Julian