Dave_EP
Member
It's not EuroUSC or RPQ-S that give permission for aerial work - it's the CAA.
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It's not EuroUSC or RPQ-S that give permission for aerial work - it's the CAA.
What would you call a realistic flight time though? I have a phantom now and if I go out to film something I find I have the shots I need in under 6 or 7 mins so end up having to fly around aggressively to discharge my lipo enough to store so as long as it's not unsafe a 6 or 7 min flight time would be ideal for me.
Droider
Drone Enthusiast
Understanding lipo usage and flight times with a Phantom is a slightly different issue than flying a GH4/Zen/Epic/Movi machine than a Phantom. In reality 6/7 mins is adequate to get a choreographed shot. Why would you want to have a flight time of 10/15 mins for that. On another note when filming GV's of say a Castle then 15/20 min flight times are a bonus. There aint any one machine that can do everything.
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Dave_EP
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That would be my understanding too, through it may be that you also need to document both configurations in the ops manual and be flight tested appropriately.
Droider
Drone Enthusiast
@ tlkigod19
So give me your safety case for a castle… now lets see.. Conway. (This is not the correct thread to continue this discussion so maybe a moderator could move it to the correct place) or if somebody wants to start an appropriate thread in the UK setcion of the forum
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So give me your safety case for a castle… now lets see.. Conway. (This is not the correct thread to continue this discussion so maybe a moderator could move it to the correct place) or if somebody wants to start an appropriate thread in the UK setcion of the forum
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Think Dave may have something to say about the tower of London, it may just be in a built up area
If your machine is certified for >7kg then it is fine to go over/under 7KG..
I think there is hope for >7kg permissions, as long as you can prove it is safe reading the latest ARPAS newsletter, you may just have to stay under 200ft, instead of 400..hopefully anyway in the future.
I'm just not rushing anything at the moment, as it all seems to be changing very fast, lets see how it pans out over the next few months.
I didn't want to be rude and ignore you, but I don't know what you are on about
I'll look into whether the RPQ-s was specifically for sub 7kg crafts only, I didn't think it was so hoped a pass would see me good for both + and - 7kg. If not then I'll certainly need to wait and my whole plan changes!Think Dave may have something to say about the tower of London, it may just be in a built up area
If your machine is certified for >7kg then it is fine to go over/under 7KG..
I think there is hope for >7kg permissions, as long as you can prove it is safe reading the latest ARPAS newsletter, you may just have to stay under 200ft, instead of 400..hopefully anyway in the future.
I'm just not rushing anything at the moment, as it all seems to be changing very fast, lets see how it pans out over the next few months.
Droider
Drone Enthusiast
@ tikigod19 no problem, but when you operate commercially you need to have a really strong safety case to operate safely to comply with your permissions for aerial work. If you are not operating commercially you still need to comply with your local regulations. In the UK it is 'If your planned flight is safe to carry out' or words to that effect. That should be the minimum standard anyone should adhere to before powering up them motors!I didn't want to be rude and ignore you, but I don't know what you are on about
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Makes sense. I still have all of the fun theory to learn about in December but I wondered why you mentioned this in relation to Flying around a castle. If a castle is in the middle of nowhere and all precautions are taken as per my approved ops manual, won't it be OK to be over 7kg?!
Droider
Drone Enthusiast
Yep.
But there are Castles and Castles. Could you fly safely with a sub7 at Conway? Could you fly a >7kg at Conway?
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The fact I hadn't heard of conway castle explains why your post made no sense.. After Google imaging it it seems it's next door to houses anyway so that'd mean sub 7kg. Anyway, slightly off topic but you get my point.. In an ideal world I'd be able to change the lipo to go sub 7kg only when I needed it (in my line of business hopefully rarely).
What's going to happen with the 7kg ruling in future is another thing now playing on the back of my mind..
What's going to happen with the 7kg ruling in future is another thing now playing on the back of my mind..
Well then you would have to pay £226 to the CAA for the >7KG machine, and another £113 for the <7KG machine (per year) that you have in your ops manual too, not to mention the other charges you will have for 2 flight tests.
Like I mentioned earlier to you,don't jump in too quickly..hang about here for a few months, at least get your PFAW, but things change all the time, you can be guaranteed that it will cost you money...who knows what's going to happen next year.
MombasaFlash
Heli's & Tele's bloke
Hmm. Maybe we should communicate!
I'm thinking along similar lines, except that I would keep the only good bit and throw away the crap - the airframe and the A2.
I think £113 a year plus the price of the flight assessment is worth it for any +7kg flyer to have a little phantom in the boot of their car as a backup machine.
Stratifier
Member
Just about to make a choice between the S900 or S1000, I'm quite concerned about this question of < 7Kg or >7kg. What confuses me in this discussion is this note from the CAA: http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/InformationNotice2014115.pdf . It seems to me to become easier to fly within 150m of congested area for a >7kg UAV . (Paragraphs 4.1 to 4.3) Once the safety case assessment is accepted by the CAA, should I understand that it will remain active and be a part of the 12 months permission?. Please somebody clarify , thanks.