KDE Direct has added Multi-Rotor Heli motors to their lineup

[anaka]

Hi guys, is there someone that tested KDE with MKBL 3.0 and 6S lipos??
does this configuration increase the flight time?

one more question...did someone tested the KDE motors with KDE 3 foldable propellers mounts and Dji props?

i'm really interested on these new motors, KDE products looks really professional but a direct feedback is more important imo

 

[ovdt]

Hi guys, is there someone that tested KDE with MKBL 3.0 and 6S lipos??
does this configuration increase the flight time?

one more question...did someone tested the KDE motors with KDE 3 foldable propellers mounts and Dji props?

i'm really interested on these new motors, KDE products looks really professional but a direct feedback is more important imo

Anaka,

I'm using KDE 4014XF-380KV with BL Ctrl 3.0. The efficiency numbers are not that high as advertised on KDE's web site but they run very close to that. They are high quality and best of all, they have great support in case you need.

There are several guys running KDE motors with MK electronics over freefly forums.

There has been two broken shaft problems for KDE 4014XFs, one with me and the other one with bryharv. KDE updated their motors now and they don't have this problem anymore. The upgrade is free for all existing 4014/4012 motor owners.

Benjamin from Yonder Blue Films using KDe triple adaptor on KDE XF3520 motors and he seems quite happy about this. I also purchased this adaptors and willing to use this but I'm still waiting for the props.

 

[Mike SF]

I just got my KDE3510-475 motors and KDE ESCs and can confirm what others have posted for other KDE motors. The thrust numbers seem to be spot on, but my efficient is lower than than advertised. But still good enough for me and better than my Tiger 3510 motors.

 

[anaka]

thanks ovdt

can't wait to read feedbacks from you and Benjamin, this triple adapter looks promising

i'm following the thread on freefly, KDE cares about customers and about reputation of the company

do exist any european seller for KDE?!?!?!

 

[oripaamoni]

Just got my 4012's back from KDE after a rework. Got the prop adapters and motors all mounted up tonight. Going to do some testing tomorrow if i get off work early enough, will report back as well

 

[rotorvista]

What was the rework on the 4012,s?

 

[oripaamoni]

I emailed them after I saw that they were replacing the shafts on the 4014. This is the response I got.

"Hey Ori,
No problem, we can have this reworked for you if desired. There has never been a report of a single failure with the KDE4012XF-400 series, so there’s no real concern there – but, if you would like us to check the motors and make sure the latest shafts/installation method is in place, please feel free to ship these to us at:"

 

[Vortex]

These look nice and the folding blades are a real advantage. What dia and pitch are available??

Thanks

Just got my 4012's back from KDE after a rework. Got the prop adapters and motors all mounted up tonight. Going to do some testing tomorrow if i get off work early enough, will report back as well

 

[min0nim]

I'm also building an X8 with the 4014's and triple props. Hopefully remaining props and HFP flight control arrive this week, and I can give an update this weekend.

Chris from KDE shared some footage from a triple prop machine he had when I was discussing my setup with them - it was beautifully smooth.

I'm hoping that they release a good range of folding props in the near future!

 

[anaka]

great setup!
will wait your reports!

 

[min0nim]

These look nice and the folding blades are a real advantage. What dia and pitch are available??

Thanks

They look like the DJI S1000 blades, which I'm using too. They are 15" 5.2's. The folding blade makes them about as efficient as a very good 15" blade, but you have the advantage of folding (duh!) and smoother flights.

There are a couple of carbon fibre blades with the same width and pitch, but I don't know of any other sizes currently. I think DJI might have just released a new line with a different profile and pitch?

KDE have a placeholder on their website for blades, but it's still in "coming soon" mode.

 

[Mrtarango32]

Has anyone hooked up the new kde 5215 to a herkules yet?

 

[BumbleBeeTuna]

I too am loving my KDE 4014's with KDE triple prop adapters and KDE XF 55+ ESC's! Fly's like a gem! Quite and smooth! Highly recommend KDE goodies!

 

[glider]

I have a Y6 @2.4 AUW, getting ready to pull the trigger on KDE 2814x-515. Ecalc shows 12 x 4.5 will result in hover @53% throttle. Specifically, I'm looking at APC 12x4.5 MR.
R_Lefebvre, I know you've posted extensively on the APC MR props. What is your opinion on using the above configuration on my Y6? I've read some claim you need to go 1" larger for MR vs SF when using Ecalc. No?

As this will be a considerable "investment" (for me anyway), I want to cover all the bases before pulling the trigger tomorrow, so any help is appreciated.

Thanks

Specs:
3DR Y6B modified to accept 14" props
Pixhawk
8A 4s battery
AUW: 2.4 kg

edit: I also want to have a Multistar 10A 10c battery, not sure if it will work with the above. Anybody? Is it against forum policy or Ecalc user agreement to post the data?

 

[R_Lefebvre]

Sorry, I don't have an opinion to give you on which APC props would work on that setup. But off the top of my head, I'd think that 12" props with those low-ish KV motors isn't going to work well.

 

[synrg]

I have a Y6 @2.4 AUW, getting ready to pull the trigger on KDE 2814x-515. Ecalc shows 12 x 4.5 will result in hover @53% throttle. Specifically, I'm looking at APC 12x4.5 MR.
R_Lefebvre, I know you've posted extensively on the APC MR props. What is your opinion on using the above configuration on my Y6? I've read some claim you need to go 1" larger for MR vs SF when using Ecalc. No?

As this will be a considerable "investment" (for me anyway), I want to cover all the bases before pulling the trigger tomorrow, so any help is appreciated.

Thanks

Specs:
3DR Y6B modified to accept 14" props
Pixhawk
8A 4s battery
AUW: 2.4 kg

edit: I also want to have a Multistar 10A 10c battery, not sure if it will work with the above. Anybody? Is it against forum policy or Ecalc user agreement to post the data?

Those 2814XF 515s are little beasts and very efficient. I think you will really like that setup. As for the ideal props... Give Chris a shout sales@kdedirect.com Their customer service is the best I have ever encountered in R/C. They will definitely guide you in the right direction. And no I am not affiliated with KDE. Just a satisfied customer.[emoji2]

 

[glider]

Those 2814XF 515s are little beasts and very efficient. I think you will really like that setup. As for the ideal props... Give Chris a shout sales@kdedirect.com Their customer service is the best I have ever encountered in R/C. They will definitely guide you in the right direction. And no I am not affiliated with KDE. Just a satisfied customer.[emoji2]

I have been discussing with KDE what props to use with my modified 3DR Y6. He suggested 13" props, but they used T-Motor CF props, I bought 13x5.5 APC MR and have no idea how they will work. Once I get it in the air comfortably to see how it performs, the TM may be warranted, but I'd sure hate to break them while testing, so playing it safe with the APC. From what I've read about APC MRP is you should go 1" above in size compared to SF, but looking at APC specs I should be "ok".

My Y6 will be able to fit 14" props.

BTW, does anyone know of a good Y6 frame for these motors? I was looking at Vulcan frames, but at 900mm being the smallest offered, that seems better suited for lower kv pancakes and much larger props.

 

[Av8Chuck]

I have been discussing with KDE what props to use with my modified 3DR Y6. He suggested 13" props, but they used T-Motor CF props, I bought 13x5.5 APC MR and have no idea how they will work. Once I get it in the air comfortably to see how it performs, the TM may be warranted, but I'd sure hate to break them while testing, so playing it safe with the APC. From what I've read about APC MRP is you should go 1" above in size compared to SF, but looking at APC specs I should be "ok".

My Y6 will be able to fit 14" props.

BTW, does anyone know of a good Y6 frame for these motors? I was looking at Vulcan frames, but at 900mm being the smallest offered, that seems better suited for lower kv pancakes and much larger props.

I'm going to let you in on a secret, I shouldn't but Jakub builds really great stuff and he deserves all the business he can get, but check out these frames: http://www.quadframe.us/collections/hexaframe/products/foldable-pro-y6-copter-frame-with-25mm-tubes

They are very well thought out and incredibly ridged. I'm currently building a Hex, Y6 and X8.

 

[SamaraMedia]

I have to agree with synrg, these KDE 2814 515's are beasts! I've been testing them on my Rusty's UAP1 800cm hex with NAZA V2, 14" Gemfan CF (T-Motor clones) props, 5000mAh 6s with Zenmuse H3-3D and have been VERY pleased with the results. Many have told me that the NAZA shouldn't be used on a craft this size but I have had no problems over the last month. I tinkered around with props size starting at 11" going all the way to 14". I did not notice much difference in performance, motor temps were never a problem and even though eCalc said these would be more efficient on the smaller props but I find the 14" are nice and the extra lift is sweet. Easily hovers at 50% and I get a solid 10 minutes of mixed flying, some aggressive passes and easy cruising. I could probably get 12-13 easy minutes since I land with about 34% left in pack. AUW is under 4k. At the 2:24 and 4:50 marks you can see I've got the throttle just about pegged as the arms and motors come into view.

 

[Av8Chuck]

Wow, that's one hell of a MR to carry a GoPro.. Its also about the best fast forward flight I've seen from a GoPro, or any other kind of camera for that matter.

Nice setup.