Y6 versus Hexacopter....... Advantages one over the other? Chime in!!
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Love to host some of you guys out here on the east coast. I'm in Connecticut. There's a pretty good meetup in Swansea, Massachussetts near Cape Cod that meets about twice a year. Check out the 2nd annual multirotor fest thread over at that other site.
Lots of beautiful places to film around these parts. Say the word and I'll help put it together.
Tom
matwelli
Member
Redundancy - prototype Y6
admittedly it had no payload, redundancy wont work unless you have more than 50% reserve thrust capacity
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RotorFilms
Member
Hi May,
Those are some really good results. Do you think the results will be the same if you left the props on but un-plugged the motors instead, my thinking is that this would cause more instability in the yaw department. I know the rotational mass on the motors are pretty small but I think it will still have a big effect.
Regards,
Andre
Those are some really good results. Do you think the results will be the same if you left the props on but un-plugged the motors instead, my thinking is that this would cause more instability in the yaw department. I know the rotational mass on the motors are pretty small but I think it will still have a big effect.
Regards,
Andre
matwelli
Member
the results would be worse with the props on, if its a lower prop that has the issue, as it will freewheel and effectively block a very big %age of the thrust from the upper motor
if its an upper motor that dies, the results would be alot better
a true hex dosent have that issue (no lower props to block the uppers)
matwelli
Member
Awesome Mat... even if you had to throw your hybrid design in on it
Pete
got to keep it ugly
helloman1976
Ziptie Relocation Expert
Very well Dave, it's only a friendly challenge anyway...just gives me a reason to fly more
http://www.youtube.com/helloman1976 My wind signature is so tiny I really have very little trouble with winds. I have video on there where I'm flying in 35mph winds with 45+mph gusts, watch me land there lol. My hexa is 24" across, the arms have holes through them, the main disc in the center is about 6 inches and the height without the legs is about 4 inches so my wind "signature" if you will is about ZERO. The legs are the only thing that cause me to drift in the wind and I only have those because I like my Go Pro underneath and I could just as easily place it where there are no props at all and on a gimble even and still maintain that same 4" profile and I mean I can do that right now without much effort, maybe 20 minutes max. I have a stick that sticks out from the base of the model that puts the camera in front of the entire model. It has a basic and simple gimble on the end of it, one axis, no props period.
Now if you really want to lay down the gauntlet how about any MR against my TDR. Hybrid. OK it's not fair but.....
In between the bad weather here, I started shooting Naza H demo that shows just how good this stabilizer/autopilot really is. If you can fly a MR to a reasonable standard you could fly this thing. It was hands off in manual mode during the calibration flight.
Speed, stability, endurance, ease of transport, line of site orientation, reliability, Auto-rotation, Dual camera system, Even vibration....,.,. Can even throw in some gentle inverted aeros.
In GPS mode it looks like it is nailed to the sky.:tennis: You owe it to yourselves to get a small cheap heli with a Naza-H and see what you are missing. JR have something that is awesome for about 900 ready to go. With all Helis you do need to be careful with your maintenance and set-up.
Nice snow vid. BTW Dave.
In between the bad weather here, I started shooting Naza H demo that shows just how good this stabilizer/autopilot really is. If you can fly a MR to a reasonable standard you could fly this thing. It was hands off in manual mode during the calibration flight.
Speed, stability, endurance, ease of transport, line of site orientation, reliability, Auto-rotation, Dual camera system, Even vibration....,.,. Can even throw in some gentle inverted aeros.
In GPS mode it looks like it is nailed to the sky.:tennis: You owe it to yourselves to get a small cheap heli with a Naza-H and see what you are missing. JR have something that is awesome for about 900 ready to go. With all Helis you do need to be careful with your maintenance and set-up.
Nice snow vid. BTW Dave.
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helloman1976
Ziptie Relocation Expert
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Droider
Drone Enthusiast
Seems I have a few questons to answer here, great it gets my head out of the mess I am dealing with right now!
I have built it for lifting upto 2.5KG. It has a purpose but what ever I lift it wont be mine!. It will fly for about 15 mins with the CX730 / 550D but I never really want to fly for that amount of time anyhow. I usually limit planned flights to 6/8mins max. SO my ADX3 is more than capable of that with 1.1Kg.
Breezmount
Tombrown1
Matwell... you just got to much time down there buddy.. just love your innovations and (this wont be a word but) inventionalness! ;-)
Pilotman
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheDroider
Helloman1976. good stuff, you obviously have something you like... so do I! There is no way I could keep a 'wind signature' like that and fly the cameras I have to. Hence my set up. Now if we are talking wind signatures for must fly then my F450/GP3 is the tool.
Denny, just now and again and I mean just now and again I wander off and look at SR. I am so tempted to give it a go. Maybe and Just maybe if I could jump a plane to your gaff you may convince me to give one a whirl... BUT I really have to weigh up just how to place it in my portfolio which I find hard to justify, especially when you look at what my Y6 was battling in the Rivington video and also the English Lakes video I posted on Vimeo. BTW I am honoured you liked my Rivi shoot.. Gives me a bit of a hike up after all the SH1T I have been through this last few weeks.
Helloman.. I guess the quadshot is going to serve a purpose but its not on my radar as being anything I could employ.
Dave
I have built it for lifting upto 2.5KG. It has a purpose but what ever I lift it wont be mine!. It will fly for about 15 mins with the CX730 / 550D but I never really want to fly for that amount of time anyhow. I usually limit planned flights to 6/8mins max. SO my ADX3 is more than capable of that with 1.1Kg.
Breezmount
Nope. But this is something I have been asked to look at.
Tombrown1
Post some links. That sounds quality and I would be well up for a trip. Thanks for chipping in.
Matwell... you just got to much time down there buddy.. just love your innovations and (this wont be a word but) inventionalness! ;-)
Pilotman
Sorry heres the link
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheDroider
Helloman1976. good stuff, you obviously have something you like... so do I! There is no way I could keep a 'wind signature' like that and fly the cameras I have to. Hence my set up. Now if we are talking wind signatures for must fly then my F450/GP3 is the tool.
Denny, just now and again and I mean just now and again I wander off and look at SR. I am so tempted to give it a go. Maybe and Just maybe if I could jump a plane to your gaff you may convince me to give one a whirl... BUT I really have to weigh up just how to place it in my portfolio which I find hard to justify, especially when you look at what my Y6 was battling in the Rivington video and also the English Lakes video I posted on Vimeo. BTW I am honoured you liked my Rivi shoot.. Gives me a bit of a hike up after all the SH1T I have been through this last few weeks.
Helloman.. I guess the quadshot is going to serve a purpose but its not on my radar as being anything I could employ.
Dave
You are welcome to come over but the weather is no good for about two more months. We start skiing next week.
It is not such a big deal to get into helis. and you don't need such a bespoke machine such as my TDR Hybrid. The Naza H will make it a lot easier. I think with Align coming into the market with the S800 Trecker cameraship it will turn a few heads, for those who want to lift Red Epics etc. but I don't see the big picture going that way, I think cameras and gimbals are going to get better and smaller so the helis will not need to be so large. I am currently flying my TDR on 4000 mah batteries.
It is not such a big deal to get into helis. and you don't need such a bespoke machine such as my TDR Hybrid. The Naza H will make it a lot easier. I think with Align coming into the market with the S800 Trecker cameraship it will turn a few heads, for those who want to lift Red Epics etc. but I don't see the big picture going that way, I think cameras and gimbals are going to get better and smaller so the helis will not need to be so large. I am currently flying my TDR on 4000 mah batteries.
helloman1976
Ziptie Relocation Expert
I really don't have much of a problem with wind unless I'm hovering or something like that and it's heavy wind, say 25mph+. When I go up to 1500 feet on a windy day I get blown around some but other than I really dont have much of an issue with it. My kind of flying is not your kind of flying for sure. Most of you guys want to get the arms and blades out of the shot and for me, that's apart of the shot! lol.... I like seeing the machine, I don't care about making money filming things...could care less. I like sport flying too, low, fast, high, falling, tumbling, rolling etc etc...no gimble gonna hold me down "...cuz there ain't no stings on me..." - Pinocchio.
I'm still looking into these inline 8's and 6's Kloner was talking about. I bet they are fast and apparently are now also becoming flying wings that can transition from one state to another. I've been waiting for that to show up so I can finally get an Osprey
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"...cuz there ain't no stings on me..." - Pinocchio. I'm still looking into these inline 8's and 6's Kloner was talking about. I bet they are fast and apparently are now also becoming flying wings that can transition from one state to another. I've been waiting for that to show up so I can finally get an Osprey
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jfro
Aerial Fun
Newbie here. Looking for the silky smooth video shots I see on the Octo's but on a smaller and less costly setup. Trying to decide between hexa or maybe a XY8 or quad 8.
Appears that for Ti, GH2, or Gh3, and down, a XY8 might be a decent compromise between this Y6 or Hexa conversation?
Appears that for Ti, GH2, or Gh3, and down, a XY8 might be a decent compromise between this Y6 or Hexa conversation?
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1728460&highlight=swansea
Next meetup will be spring. Looks like there is going to be fpv racing this year!
Now that you have figured it out, could you 'splain it to those of us who have NO clue please?
I am planning to put the Naza-H Vid. up next week when it's finished, just putting a GoPro-3 on the side to see the Zen working, thats is. if it stops blowing a gale and pissing down.
I feel sorry for the poor people who came here for a holiday last month. They were expecting blue skies and endless sunshine. At least it's a bit greener.
It did not used to be like this. Five years ago we had to ship water into Cyprus by tanker from Greece, this place was drier than a dead dingos donger, all of the dams were empty. That and the bad forest fires gave me something else to document from the air and add to a book profect. They can have their water back now.
I have a book that sells for 20 euros that also documents the North side of the Island. It was the only time in 36 years that the Turks allowed anyone to officially overfly. It is unique as I doubt that it will happen again in my lifetime. It is a best seller and comes with a 40min DVD full of aerial video production with voice over from David Symonds (BBC).
It is also a good reference for those out there who might one day want to make some money shooting a book. I can tell you how to go about self publishing. You only get paid once to shoot a gig but books can sell for many years.
Most of the images in that book have sold countless times to other publishers. PM me if thats of interest.
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