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http://www.servocity.com/html/s3156_servo.html this is a good servo for small gimbals (the gimbals aren't metal) and there's a bit more to it then your description, like pilot skill. Look at some of the videos guys are putting out with their straight up NON gimbaled 450 and disco frames, it's...

A year ago I was exactly where you guys are now. Don't waist your money or your time with that gimbal, spend your money on more battery, more battery equals more flight time, more flight time equals more skill, more skill equals less crashing, less crashing means less money spent buying cheap...

Not sure what they consider PTZ, I always thought that stood for pan tilt zoom. Get the gimbal/450 thing outta your head and just go for some of IrisArial's leg extensions and hang your gopro under it. Check out Mattspvc in the build log section, that guy's knockin it outta the park with...

all items gone cept for the dji props, they're still here...mocking me...laughing at me...

Barts X8 design looks like what you're describing I think.

That is AWSOME! You could seriously sell these. Do you get any servo backlash? well done Tom. best-tom

Yeah, I think the naza manual says something like "Throttle let below 10% could make stone of mc" or something like that.

Will a buttload of dji cw props make you feel better?:cupcake: just say the word... it was a total up and down year for me.

That thing makes the nex look like a gopro! Merry Christmas dood-learned a lot from you this year-thanks!

oh...never mind

I saw a win7 laptop for 250 bucks at walmart this last weekend, they call it bootcamp to get you ready for the hardships you'll endure. I don't know how savvy you are with soldering deans, do a search for Bartman's "soldering deans" vid. Just remember to have a male connector in while you...

This frame looks almost identical (save for no tilt gimbal) to the Jago Heavy Lifter quad- http://jago.se/jago.se/Projects/Entries/2011/9/1_Foldable_heavylift_Quad.html

Motors are gone merry Christmas!

These things make you feel like Sisyphus sometimes.

You chose one of the hexa's on the screen and not a quad? On the calibration screen is your transmitter set to traditional or sbus? What transmitter are you using? Do you get any stick movements at all in the calibration screen?

have you downloaded and installed the naza firmware?

When you want to start the motors, it's referred as the CSC. What flight controller are you using?

Try stripping your 450 down to the stock naked, no landing gear, no camera, no extraneous gear and just fly. In their bare bones form the dji frames are pretty rugged. Get back on that horse dood!

If I really had Santa's lil helper there, do you think I'd be messing with multicopters? thanks for the offer.

I was going to run bootcamp too but the full home version of win 7 at the time was like 50 bucks cheaper then just buying a low end hp laptop running win 7, so I went that route and didn't pollute my mac.