FAA action against RC activities

OK, so if your neighbours house was on fire, but the fire brigade didn't attend because the residents have "opted out of society" and thus your house burns down as well, were does that leave you, under common law are they liable for your loss, if your neighbours children contract TB because they haven't been inocculated as they are no longer entitled to NHS care, and then your children contract it and possibly die, were does that leave them, under common law isn't it "an eye for an eye". Someone may well have built a hobbit house, but on who's land, how did they get planning and if anyone is able to do this under common law then we will see traveller villages springing up everywhere, maybe in your back garden, imagine that.
 

Macsgrafs

Active Member
OK, so if your neighbours house was on fire, but the fire brigade didn't attend because the residents have "opted out of society" and thus your house burns down as well, were does that leave you, under common law are they liable for your loss, if your neighbours children contract TB because they haven't been inocculated as they are no longer entitled to NHS care, and then your children contract it and possibly die, were does that leave them, under common law isn't it "an eye for an eye". Someone may well have built a hobbit house, but on who's land, how did they get planning and if anyone is able to do this under common law then we will see traveller villages springing up everywhere, maybe in your back garden, imagine that.

Yes they are very liable for YOUR loss. I dont innoculate my children either...only uneducated would put mercury & other such dangerous chemicals into thier children without first knowing all the facts, but if you want to do that to your children, be my guest!
The land was his own, its very low impact & looks far better than these worthless peaces of red brick we call houses.
Under common law we would NOT see travellor villages spriging up everywhere...where did you get that idea?
May I suggest you actually research this stuff, I don't want anyone taking my word for it...the whole point is to wake up, thats cant be done if people dont try themselves.

Still didnt get your name?

Regards
Ross
 

Yes they are very liable for YOUR loss. I dont innoculate my children either...only uneducated would put mercury & other such dangerous chemicals into thier children without first knowing all the facts, but if you want to do that to your children, be my guest!
The land was his own, its very low impact & looks far better than these worthless peaces of red brick we call houses.
Under common law we would NOT see travellor villages spriging up everywhere...where did you get that idea?
May I suggest you actually research this stuff, I don't want anyone taking my word for it...the whole point is to wake up, thats cant be done if people dont try themselves.

Still didnt get your name?

Regards
Ross

I think only the uneducated would argue that modern vaccinations and disease control has not improved the lifestyle, lifespan and general health of 99% of the population in this country, look to the 3rd world to see what they have to put up with.

As for traveller settlements, if there are no statutes, who's to stop them, does not planning permission come under a statute law?

I have researched John Harris's stuff, and I don't doubt it's correct however I do think most of the thing's in place improve modern life, I have no doubt that we pay to much tax, get trapped into our modern lifestyles and live a life under control.

I am not attacking your views I too think that life that way would be great, but can't see it working in modern life.

I think perhaps a new thread on this would be good as we've hijacked this a bit

Lee
 

I am interested to see what others have to say about the current FAA problems. Lets keep this thread on topic. Feel free to start another thread to discuss anything other than the current issues, laws, rumors from the FAA regarding RC aircraft.
 

Macsgrafs

Active Member
I think only the uneducated would argue that modern vaccinations and disease control has not improved the lifestyle, lifespan and general health of 99% of the population in this country, look to the 3rd world to see what they have to put up with.

As for traveller settlements, if there are no statutes, who's to stop them, does not planning permission come under a statute law?

I have researched John Harris's stuff, and I don't doubt it's correct however I do think most of the thing's in place improve modern life, I have no doubt that we pay to much tax, get trapped into our modern lifestyles and live a life under control.

I am not attacking your views I too think that life that way would be great, but can't see it working in modern life.

I think perhaps a new thread on this would be good as we've hijacked this a bit

Lee

Hi again Lee,

Firstly my apologies, for hijacking this thread, it was NOT my intention to do this, but to put out amongst the members whats going on right now in Cananda, the US & UK..even Australia. Vaccines...the ploy of the big pharma companies to make people think they cant live without them...its just a money making scam yet again to fool us, I see it again & again in all walks of life. Im glad you mentioned Africa...look what WE done to Gaddaffi...Libya was the richest country in Africa, he wanted to stop dealing in the bankrupt/fiat money called the US dollar & trade in the Gold African Dinar....Sadam Insane had the same idea....look what happened to him & all for the lie of WMD's...that they never have found. Lies, lies & more lies constantly being fed to us until we believe it. If you go back to the start of the Libyan uprising (joke), look at the rebels...armed with BRAND NEW machine guns...supplied by the USA....Al Qaeda are the rebels...strange how we fight them in Afghan yet support them in Libya? Within 4 hours of the uprising starting...the rebels agreed to a central bank...is the picture forming yet? Its all about money & thats what statutes are about...taking money from YOU!

I could post so many video clips, including from the BBC showing what was really going on out there, but I think I have gone OT quite a bit here, my apologies...but I really want EVERYONE to see whats going on...just look at the coat of arms on Buckingham palace, that will tell all!!!!

Vaccinations in Africa...by bill gates (illuminati puppet), they are slowly poisoning us with the crap they put in them, because to get this planet back into balance we need 500,000,000 people max.....the other 6.5 billion have to be culled for want of a better word. (taken from the Georgia guide stones).
FEMA is doing a 3 minute test of the EMS system in the states on the 9th November at 2pm EST.....thats 9PM our time....there is also some talk of a comet/asteroid going to hit at the same time...I cant confirm either, but these are the latest rumors out there.

Were do we stop? When the flouride is taken out of our water (used by Hitler to keep the Jews pacified)...when Aspartame is banned as it causes brain tumors? When fiat money backed by NOTHING is withdrawn??? When we go back to common law (common sense law)???
Big questions demanding big answers....but to many would rather go back to watching Eastenders, Corrie & the likes on TV...its not on thier doorstep so how can it affect them!!!

Regards
Ross

For more info on vaccines see this Doctors website:- http://vaccines.mercola.com/

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Here's information from the FAA website, published last year. http://www.faa.gov/news/fact_sheets/news_story.cfm?newsId=6287

I did a search on the FAA site for anything related to RC model aircraft restrictions, etc. and this is what came up.

December 1, 2010
Contact: Les Dorr, Jr or Alison Duquette
Phone: (202) 267-3883

Introduction
Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS) come in a variety of shapes and sizes, and serve diverse purposes. They may have a wingspan as large as a Boeing 737 or smaller than a radio-controlled model airplane. A pilot on the ground is always in charge of UAS operations.
Until recently, UASs mainly supported military and security operations, but that is rapidly changing. Unmanned aircraft promise new ways to increase efficiency, save money, enhance safety and even save lives. Interest is growing in a broad range of uses such as aerial photography, surveying land and crops, monitoring forest fires and environmental conditions, and protecting borders and ports against intruders.
In the United States alone, approximately 50 companies, universities, and government organizations are developing and producing some 155 unmanned aircraft designs.
The FAA’s Role: Safety First
The FAA’s main concern about UAS operations in the National Airspace System (NAS) is safety. The NAS encompasses an average of more than 100,000 aviation operations per day, including commercial air traffic, cargo operations, and business jets. Additionally, there are more than 238,000 general aviation aircraft in the system at any time. It is critical that aircraft do not endanger other users of the NAS or compromise the safety of persons or property on the ground.
Recreational use of the NAS is covered by FAA Advisory Circular (AC) 91-57 which generally limits operations to below 400 feet above ground level and away from airports and air traffic.
There are two acceptable means of operating UAS in the NAS outside of “restricted” airspace: a Special Airworthiness Certificate – Experimental Category or a Certificate of Waiver or Authorization (COA).
A Special Airworthiness Certificate in the Experimental Category is the only certification available to civil operators of UAS. Due to regulatory requirements, this approval precludes carrying persons or property for compensation or hire, but does allow operations for research and development, market survey, and crew training.
Since July 2005, the FAA has issued 78 experimental certificates for 17 different aircraft types. Through these efforts, the FAA works with manufacturers to collect technical and operational data to help improve the UAS airworthiness certification process.
The COA process is available to public entities, such as government agencies (including local law enforcement and state universities), who want to fly a UAS in civil airspace. Applicants apply online and the FAA evaluates the request. The FAA issues a Certificate of Waiver or Authorization (COA), generally based on the following principles:

  • The COA authorizes an operator to use defined airspace and includes special provisions unique to each operation. For instance, a COA may include a requirement to operate only under Visual Flight Rules (VFR) and/or during daylight hours. Most COAs are issued for a specified time period (up to one year, in most cases).
  • Most, if not all, COAs require coordination with an appropriate air traffic control facility and may require the UAS to have a transponder to operate in certain types of airspace.
  • Due to the UASs inability to comply with ”sense and avoid” rules, a ground observer or an accompanying “chase” aircraft must maintain visual contact with the UAS and serve as its “eyes” when operating outside of airspace that is restricted from other users.
The FAA is streamlining the COA process and has also increased staffing by more than a dozen people. In 2009, the FAA issued 146 COAs. As of December 1, 2010, there were 273 active COAs. The agency has issued COA’s in 2010 to 95 users on 72 different aircraft types.
Operation and Certification Standards
To address the increasing civil market and the desire by civilian operators to fly UASs, the FAA is developing new policies, procedures, and approval processes. Developing and implementing new UAS standards and guidance is a long-term effort.

  • The FAA created the Unmanned Aircraft Program Office (UAPO) and the Air Traffic Organization (ATO) UAS office to integrate UASs safely and efficiently into the NAS.
  • The FAA is working closely with stakeholders in the UAS community to define operational and certification requirements. It is critical to develop and validate appropriate operational procedures, regulatory standards and policies for routine UAS access to the NAS.
  • The FAA has asked RTCA– a group that frequently advises the agency on technical issues – to work with the industry and develop UAS standards. RTCA will answer two key questions:

    1. How will UASs handle communication, command, and control?
    2. How will UASs “sense and avoid” other aircraft?
These are long-term activities. The first of three milestones is targeted for completion prior to 2015.

The FAA continues to work closely with its international counterparts to harmonize standards, policies, procedures, and regulatory requirements.
Data is Key
More safety data is needed before the FAA can make an informed decision to fully integrate UASs into the NAS, where the public travels each day. Continuing to review of UAS operations will enhance the FAA’s ability to assess the safety and improve the use of this technology.
Small Eyes in the Sky
The FAA expects small UASs to experience the greatest near-term growth in civil and commercial operations because of their versatility and relatively low initial cost and operating expenses. The agency has received extensive public comment on small UASs, both from proponents who feel their size dictates minimal regulation and from groups concerned about hazards to piloted general aviation aircraft and the safety of persons or property on the ground..
In April 2008, the FAA chartered an Aviation Rulemaking Committee (ARC) to examine these operational and safety issues and make recommendations on how to proceed with regulating Small UASs. The agency has received the ARC recommendations, and is drafting a proposed rule. The FAA aims to publish a proposed rule in 2011.
One of the most promising potential uses for small UASs is in law enforcement. Although the Small UAS ARC was not specific to law enforcement organizations, they participated in the Committee.
Currently, any law enforcement organization must follow the COA process if they wish to conduct demonstration flights. The FAA has already worked with urban police departments in Houston and Miami on test programs involving unmanned aircraft. The goal is to help identify the challenges that UASs will bring into this environment and what type of operations can safely be conducted by law enforcement.
The Bottom Line
The introduction of UASs into the NAS is challenging for the FAA and the aviation community. UAS proponents have a growing interest in expediting access to the NAS. There is an increase in the number and scope of UAS flights in an already busy NAS.
The design of many UASs makes them difficult to see and adequate “detect, sense and avoid” technology is years away. Decisions being made about UAS airworthiness and operational requirements must fully address safety implications of UASs flying in the same airspace as manned aircraft, and perhaps more importantly, aircraft with passengers.
 


Droider

Drone Enthusiast
Windbreaker.. have you read our rules on UAV's.. I know it does not help that much but I would have thought we have a vastly more populated airspace than the US and we manage to see the potential of UAV's especially small 7KG and under craft.. There are sensible restrictions on us but they are perfectly adequate for our needs as operators of small UAV's which is what we are about..

Dave UK?

http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=33&pagetype=65&appid=11&mode=detail&id=415
 

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