F550 Radio Setup

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Charlie.

Member
Hi there,

I am building my first F550 and FINALLY my turnigy 9XR radio has arrived so that I can finish off my build. I have a few questions though which I need answered before I can progress with the build any further. Here are the questions:

1: I am using the Frsky D8R-II Plus receiver which has 2 little antennae sticking out the back. Where should these be positioned on the hexacopter?

2: I will be using a Turnigy 9XR with the above receiver (and frsky module obviously), but the channels on the receiver are only labelled 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8. Which numbers do I connect to each input on the NAZA?

3: How would I actually go about binding my receiver to my transmitter? Does it need a bind plug or is that only for spektrum radios? Do I just need to press the F/S buttons on both the receiver and transmitter module? Does the receiver get power from the Naza?

Thanks guys :)
 

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b0nafide

Member
Bump!

I'm in the exact same boat as the OP. I'll be following this thread too...

Hey Charlie are you going to use the stock Turnigy firmware on your controller or are you going to reflash it to 9xer?
 

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Charlie.

Member
At the moment I am stuck with stock firmware because my USB programmer is still making its way from HobbyKing. I think I might leave it stock though to be honest because the stock firmware is pretty close to the true ER9X firmware anyway.

Can anyone help us?! :)
 

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b0nafide

Member
There's not much difference between the stock firmware and the 9xer? I haven't really compared them but I understood it to be a substantial difference.
 

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Charlie.

Member
For what I am using it for I would not need the added features that the latest er9x firmware offers. There are definitely a number of differences, but the 9XR firmware is pretty much a stripped down/older version of the er9x firmware from what I understand. There is a debate going on over here http://forum.turnigy9xr.com/where-is-the-source-code-t16.html

Have you got anywhere with installing your receiver yet b0nafide? I still haven't found out which channels connect to the NAZA's inputs. I sent an email to quadcopters.co.uk where I bought the F550 from but haven't heard back yet.

If anyone can answer any of the questions in my original post... PLEASE do so because it means that I can get flying! :)
 

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b0nafide

Member
Nope, I am awaiting the remote in the mail from Hobbyking.

Does the DJI product manual not give clear enough instructions on this? There is a pile of videos out there... Have you searched them? Trial and error?
 

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Charlie.

Member
I got an answer from the same question which I posted on hobbyking 10 minutes ago and apparently it doesn't matter to which inputs on the NAZA they are connected because you can change every channel on the 9XR.

Don't quite know how to do that but I'll give it a go!
 

gtranquilla

gtranquilla

RadioActive
Answers:
Q3: Yes..... the NAZA gets power from the connections to the NAZA (whether by individual channels or by using s.bus)
Q2: Align your Transmitter default channels with the defaults required by the NAZA controller as per the following diagram (it's in the NAZA manual)
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Charlie. said:
Hi there,

I am building my first F550 and FINALLY my turnigy 9XR radio has arrived so that I can finish off my build. I have a few questions though which I need answered before I can progress with the build any further. Here are the questions:

1: I am using the Frsky D8R-II Plus receiver which has 2 little antennae sticking out the back. Where should these be positioned on the hexacopter?

2: I will be using a Turnigy 9XR with the above receiver (and frsky module obviously), but the channels on the receiver are only labelled 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8. Which numbers do I connect to each input on the NAZA?

3: How would I actually go about binding my receiver to my transmitter? Does it need a bind plug or is that only for spektrum radios? Do I just need to press the F/S buttons on both the receiver and transmitter module? Does the receiver get power from the Naza?

Thanks guys :)
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Charlie.

Member
Thanks gtranquilla,

On the radio I am using (Turnigy 9XR) I can mix the channels to anything I like so I don't think I have to worry about which cables go to where on the NAZA as long as the channels are setup correctly in my transmitter. Is this correct?

Also what are some of the NAZA inputs for:

X1 is for flight modes I think (3 position switch for GPS, Attitude and Failsafe) is this right?
X2 is for.... (camera gimbal possibly, controlled by pot)?
U is for....?

Which of F1 and F2 are for the pitch of the gimbal and which is for the roll?

Thanks again :)
Charlie
 

gtranquilla

gtranquilla

RadioActive
There are multiple options for the use of X1 and X2 but when mapped to F1 and F2 of your Naza controller they are used for gimbal control. U channel should be configured to a 3 way switch on your transmitter so that you can switch between flight control modes: Manual, Attitude or GPS-Attitude.

Again.... study pages 8, 9 and 10 of the Naza Manual for using Assistant software.
The other end is your Radio Transmitter configuration which I know nothing about since I chose the easy path, i.e., using my Futaba T8FG Super Transmitter c/w R2608SB with s.bus.

Charlie. said:
Thanks gtranquilla,

On the radio I am using (Turnigy 9XR) I can mix the channels to anything I like so I don't think I have to worry about which cables go to where on the NAZA as long as the channels are setup correctly in my transmitter. Is this correct?

Also what are some of the NAZA inputs for:

X1 is for flight modes I think (3 position switch for GPS, Attitude and Failsafe) is this right?
X2 is for.... (camera gimbal possibly, controlled by pot)?
U is for....?

Which of F1 and F2 are for the pitch of the gimbal and which is for the roll?

Thanks again :)
Charlie
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Charlie.

Member
I have got the first 4 channels working (TREA),

I can't get the 3 position switch (flight modes) to work properly.

How do I set them up on the mixer menu? I can't get it to line up with the 3 modes in the NAZA asisstant.

I am using Channel 5 and have a 'FULL' mixer for each switch and am adjusting the 'weight' but I can't get each position to line up with the modes I want.

Does anyone have any ideas? I really need help ASAP so I can fly tomorrow if the weather is good :)
 



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Charlie.

Member
Thanks I think I got it :)

Pretty much fully built now, just setting up my gimbal! Can't wait to see how badly it will shake around ;)
 


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Charlie.

Member
Hi again guys,

I just took it out for a fly, calibrated the GPS and had a little fly around in GPS Atti and Atti modes.

The NAZA LED however, when on the ground it showed the correct colours (green in GPS mode and yellow in Atti mode) but when I took off the LED was flashing relatively quickly with the red colour?

I have connected my hexacopter back up to the naza assistant and it says my battery voltage is 11.4v, and the first safeguard only kicks in at 10.80V (loaded) and the second level at 10.40V loaded.

Does anyone have any ideas what the problem could be? It was wobbling around a little bit in GPS mode but it is a bit breezy.

Any help would be greatly apprecited :)

Thanks
 

OneStopRC

OneStopRC

Dirty Little Hucker
What size, type and c rating is on the battery?

The reason why I ask, when you pull amps and your c rating is low, it could drive your volts low. I remember at one point, you was talking about down sizing the wire on your battery cables to fit the connectors. Reducing the size of the wire is like pinching a garden hose, you will loose flow. Not saying this is the cause, but it is something to bear in mind.
 

gtranquilla

gtranquilla

RadioActive
There are several possibilities....
1) Did you calibrate your your Naza voltage detection as per page 28 of the Naza Assistant manual?
2) There could be excessive current draw if the gimbal servos bind
3) The NAZA PMU doesn't work correctly if the outdoor temperature is very low, e.g., below 32 deg F or 0 deg C.
4) In the case of 3 above you have to lower the first and 2nd voltage level protection settings further.
4) Your batteries are not being charged fully/correctly or are faulty (examine the voltage output of each cell when fully charged).
5) If you are using a modified PC power supply to feed your battery charger, you charger could be starved for current and not operating correctly.
6) One or more of your motors is drawing excessive current, i.e., is damaged.
7) Your MR is weighed down with too much payload....
7) Has your MR been allowed to climatize to outdoor temperature before flying?
8) The most common reason is that the first and/or 2nd level voltage protection levels are set too high!


Charlie. said:
Hi again guys,

I just took it out for a fly, calibrated the GPS and had a little fly around in GPS Atti and Atti modes.

The NAZA LED however, when on the ground it showed the correct colours (green in GPS mode and yellow in Atti mode) but when I took off the LED was flashing relatively quickly with the red colour?

I have connected my hexacopter back up to the naza assistant and it says my battery voltage is 11.4v, and the first safeguard only kicks in at 10.80V (loaded) and the second level at 10.40V loaded.

Does anyone have any ideas what the problem could be? It was wobbling around a little bit in GPS mode but it is a bit breezy.

Any help would be greatly apprecited :)

Thanks
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Charlie.

Member
Thanks Deanot,

My battery is a 3S 5000mah 25C Zippy Compact battery. I got my friend to solder the XT60 plugs for me in the end (lol). When I plug the battery into my hexacopter I do sometimes get a spark, but I guess this is because I don't plug the plugs together at EXACTLY the same time.

It seems to fly fine! I used my other battery and the same thing happened, when on the ground, changing the modes triggered the appropriate LEDs, but shortly after taking off the flashing red LED of death comes on and stayed there until I unplugged the battery after landing.

I hope it's not a busted NAZA because I bought it from Flying-Hobby in Hong Kong!
 

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