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dalpets

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I have just received a Flysky i6x transmitter & X6B receiver. I would like to build a beginner's mini quadcopter, but after spending hours scouring the net I am no wiser about compatibilty issues.
It seems that so much is taken for granted for beginners that there are significant gaps of howto information. There is a lot of harping regarding racing drones but that does not address the help needed for beginners. I am wary that to make a mistake with hardware choices could prove costly!
So in the first instance my question is what compatible flight controller(s) can I use with the above equipment?
Also, is there help available to wire up the above mentioned receiver to a controller that you might recommend?
In this instance a list of all components for a simple beginner's build would also be helpful.
 

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Christian Rogers

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dalpets said:
I have just received a Flysky i6x transmitter & X6B receiver. I would like to build a beginner's mini quadcopter, but after spending hours scouring the net I am no wiser about compatibilty issues.
It seems that so much is taken for granted for beginners that there are significant gaps of howto information. There is a lot of harping regarding racing drones but that does not address the help needed for beginners. I am wary that to make a mistake with hardware choices could prove costly!
So in the first instance my question is what compatible flight controller(s) can I use with the above equipment?
Also, is there help available to wire up the above mentioned receiver to a controller that you might recommend?
In this instance a list of all components for a simple beginner's build would also be helpful.
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Try to read the specifications of each component friend :)
 



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dalpets

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The only attempt I have seen that comes any where near helping beginners into the quadcopter hobby is the 8 part tutorial at the Painless 360 youtube channel.

However, it would be a challenge to have success with the build there. Even with my reasonable technical aptitude I don't think I would be confident as a beginner to make it work, mainly because I think the staged tutorials don't look quite detailed or logical enough, where it counts, to guarantee success. It also tries too hard to cover too many options so that it becomes somewhat bloated & confusing . As such I could see a high probability of it being a very expensive failure. And, dissappointingly it, doesn't broach any questions related to the compatibility of hardware.

Moreover, attempts by a scarcity of authors on Amazon have misleading titles & subject matter that renders them barren & useless exercises & a waste of money.

This is where youtube is potentially superior. Unfortunately, though, those immersed & experienced in the hobby too often talk in a technical foreign language that scares newcomers off. And let's face it the imparting of technical knowledge often falls short in these videos because the authors don't necessarily have the aptitude or don't care to do so in a conducive manner.

So for now I'm still in no man's land until someone here cares to help.


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RENOV8R

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Enough of that negative attitude mister, this hobby is supposed to be fun!! Seriously though, you are just overthinking things.

Your Flysky radio system uses iBus signal protocol and is therefore compatible with virtually an flight controller on the market
 

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dalpets

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RENOV8R said:
Enough of that negative attitude mister, this hobby is supposed to be fun!! Seriously though, you are just overthinking things.

Your Flysky radio system uses iBus signal protocol and is therefore compatible with virtually an flight controller on the market
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Yes it is supposed to be fun, but for your information, mister, I have spent literally hours & hours trying to get my radio to work with simulator software, based on presumably numerous reliable online resources, only to find out now after my prodding of so called experts, that I have been wasting my time with the various hardware approaches with the Flysky i6x (not the i6), approaches that I now find others have indeed deemed a failure.
So now i'm told to connect wirelessly using Arduino Uno to avoid hardware flaws.

Where does it end & just how many attempts is needed to make something like this work! So for me it has been a frustrating and umitigated minefield that is an utter turn off.
 

RENOV8R

RENOV8R

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dalpets said:
Yes it is supposed to be fun, but for your information, mister, I have spent literally hours & hours trying to get my radio to work with simulator software, based on presumably numerous reliable online resources, only to find out now after my prodding of so called experts, that I have been wasting my time with the various hardware approaches with the Flysky i6x (not the i6), approaches that I now find others have indeed deemed a failure.
So now i'm told to connect wirelessly using Arduino Uno to avoid hardware flaws.

Where does it end & just how many attempts is needed to make something like this work! So for me it has been a frustrating and umitigated minefield that is an utter turn off.
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It shouldn't be this hard! What flight controller and configuration software are you using?
 

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dalpets

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RENOV8R said:
It shouldn't be this hard! What flight controller and configuration software are you using?
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No flight controller at this stage. I only want to get into simulator mode for training purposes at this stage not actual flying, using coding in the Arduino IDE for the Uno. Haven't tried it yet. Waiting on an answer from the author of this wireless approach, but from experience I am not holding my breath and it might therefore again come to nothing.
 


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dalpets

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For those who may be having the same problems as me it has now been recommended NOT to use the 22 in 1 cable for Flysky FS16-X simulation. Numerous users have indicated it doesn't work.

It has now been recommended by a major simulation site that the best way to connect a FlySky tx is with a wireless dongle.
They say you can do this with a flight controller running betaflight 3.4 or you can use an arduino board (Teensy 3.2).
They say there are also other solutions but the best method is to just circumvent the ix6 wired outputs entirely and just pick up the 2.4ghz signals from it and convert them into joystick input.

I have found that amongst those other solutions is the use of an Arduno Uno connected wirelessly to the Flysky receiver via the Arduno IDE.

I'm surprised that these problems haven't already been documented here by the initiated, the absence of which makes it hard for newcomers, such as myself.
 


RENOV8R

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Just to clarify, when you're making reference to simulation, are you talking about online simulators such as Liftoff, Velocidrone, etc? Just trying to get a handle on what you're asking as it seems that in your OP, you were just asking about connecting a receiver to a flight controller and compatibility. We seem to have gone off on quite a tangent
 

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dalpets

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RENOV8R said:
Just to clarify, when you're making reference to simulation, are you talking about online simulators such as Liftoff, Velocidrone, etc? Just trying to get a handle on what you're asking as it seems that in your OP, you were just asking about connecting a receiver to a flight controller and compatibility. We seem to have gone off on quite a tangent
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Well both actually, but when I realised how problematic everything seemed to be I decided to limit myself initially to the type of simulation that you refer, and which as discussed, I now find has its own set of problems with the i6X Flysky transmitter. I recall originally looking at a flight controller for the i6x transmitter but it involved mental gymnastics because you couldn't use the ibus receiver on the sbus connector of the flight controller but instead on some other network pad. I found that out only by complete accident. So I wondered how many other things along the way were not what they seemed & would result in unintended consequences & hair pulling.
Because of my perception that building my own quadcopter would likely be full of pitfalls for a beginner it would probably be better for me to get an actual flying solution that worked out of the box. Maybe at the end of the day the solution for me then needs to be a ready built transmitter/copter package solution. Unfortunately that approach does not really facilitate a learning experience, does it? On the other hand it might be a learning experience at a cost I would want to avoid, knowing what I have gleaned already.
For the experienced I'm sure it is pretty easy to come up with solutions but for the rest of us ....hmmm, we are seen to be "over thinking it"!
That also raises the question what was the cost to the experienced user to become experienced, in terms of time & money, to the exclusion perhaps of other needs?
 
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RENOV8R

RENOV8R

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Agreed, there are many things in this hobby that may seem a little overwhelming when you're first starting out. The actual mechanics of a build are quite simple, but as you've found out, compatibility is one of the main issues. But with a little research, there's always a solution. That's why these forums are so useful, you ask a specific question and get a specific answer. No spending 5 hours watching Youtube videos just to find out you have 1 ground wire connected to the wrong pad haha. Take for example your conundrum with not being able to connect your Flysky receiver to the sBus pad, therefore you assume it's unusable. The answer is quite simple: the sBus pad is just a UART with an inverter, as sBus is an inverted signal whereas iBus isn't. Most modern flight controllers have 4 or 5 UARTs and only 1 is inverted for sBus, so just pick any one of the remaining 3 or 4 to connect your Flysky receiver and you're off to the races. Stick around, ask lots of questions. I'm a builder and I still get stumped all the time! Here's the last build I did, with some practice, you can put something like this together in less than a day
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Well, as a starter how do I begin to work with the Matek F405 CTR , the Flysky i6x & the X6B receiver, all of which I have on hand?
Perhaps for now just some learning mode setup instructions would help, without a full frame arrangement, to give me a basic understanding of how things are connected for a working arrangement.
I was also thinking of getting a ZIPPY Compact 1500mAh 3S 25C Lipo Pack. Do you recommended this or a different spec for my needs?
Do I need to get hold of a PBD. If so, what do you recommend?
Thanks for any help.
 

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RENOV8R

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dalpets said:
I have the Matek F405 CTR not the Matek mini. Is the CHUB still the correct PDB for that?
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Oh that's even better! The CTR is an AIO board so no PDB is required. Everything gets soldered directly to the board.
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