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I can agree with you there .. most of the time I hate quads ... like the other Sunday when I was waist deep in freezing water fishing the 450 out of a lake ... but then I love them too .. and the first thing I do each morning is to check the tree tops to see if I can fly

Its all my sons fault :( he bought me a hubsan x4 for my birthday 6 months ago ..I progressed from that to a quanum nova... it didnt last long and developed the wobble of death... I thought it would be a good idea to have a go at building a cheap Chinese f450 clone... I never did get that to fly...