Hey all new here been into all types of r/c for at least 30 years have only been flying for a few on just small scale crafts tried heli's for a bit just couldnt wrap my head around it.. spent lots of cash on that one... then moved on to small quads and so far I have had good luck I still only have 2 rtr quads one is the traxxas and the other is the heli-max 1sq vcam nice and cheap and fun to terrorize the cats... now it's time to go a little bigger looking at the dji flame wheel f450 looks like a good entry level rig so here I am to try and learn a little more