tilt shift advice?
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nicwilke
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Hi people, as in the title, I'd like to have your advices for a good tilt shift solution based on GH2 camera
so micro 4/3, probably a tiltshift adapter is better, in the way to save weight, dimensions and money
May I ask you what use you have for a TS lens on a multirotor?
anaka
Member
Hi Nick, recenlty there are even more videos that use the TS on focus to achieve a very nice style
the resulting images have a particular look, everithing appears as a miniature
I know that it is possible to have the same effect with post processing, btw to obtain it with a lens is better for sure
the resulting images have a particular look, everithing appears as a miniature
I know that it is possible to have the same effect with post processing, btw to obtain it with a lens is better for sure
jforkner
Member
The T/S look often provides an image that gives the subject matter a "miniaturized" look---usually the center or main subject is in focus; the surrounding area is blurred. That is not the main purpose of a T/S lens; but, nonetheless, what some folks like.
If this is your purpose, this look can be achieved in Photoshop (and probably other photo processing programs). In fact the the latest version on Photoshop (CS6) has a filter just for that. Here's a link to a tutorial on how to make miniature scenes in Photoshop: http://visualphotoguide.com/tilt-shift-photoshop-tutorial-how-to-make-fake-miniature-scenes/
If your purpose is to control perspective or focus depth (what T/S lenses are normally used for), I'm not sure you can effectively adjust the tilt or shift while the camera is airborne.
Jack
If this is your purpose, this look can be achieved in Photoshop (and probably other photo processing programs). In fact the the latest version on Photoshop (CS6) has a filter just for that. Here's a link to a tutorial on how to make miniature scenes in Photoshop: http://visualphotoguide.com/tilt-shift-photoshop-tutorial-how-to-make-fake-miniature-scenes/
If your purpose is to control perspective or focus depth (what T/S lenses are normally used for), I'm not sure you can effectively adjust the tilt or shift while the camera is airborne.
Jack
anaka
Member
hi Jack you got the point
I know abouth the post processing way, that is the quicker way, some mobile apps now have that funcion included so it is a kids play to do
but to have it from lenses is a higher quality level
it looks that you already had experience on that so do you think that use T/S from lenses needs to be tuned well depending by soject distance and things like that?
teorically it is not possible to set it before taking off then film with that setting?
I know abouth the post processing way, that is the quicker way, some mobile apps now have that funcion included so it is a kids play to do
but to have it from lenses is a higher quality level
it looks that you already had experience on that so do you think that use T/S from lenses needs to be tuned well depending by soject distance and things like that?
teorically it is not possible to set it before taking off then film with that setting?
DucktileMedia
Drone Enthusiast
I have been quite happy with the after effects methods in post. Hell, even the MB looks effect works damn well.
The only tilt shifts I've dealt with were the canon L's. A dp I work for insist on using them when he gets artsy with his 5d footy. Crafty time for the crew while he fiddle fux around with subject placement and critical focus. It always looks great but real time sinks to do properly imo. I would think it would be a hit or miss kind of happy accident with one flying around. They're very heavy pieces of glass with lots of moving parts, not ideal for mc's. The other kind of adapters like the lensbaby might be subject to vibrations through the bellows, I don't know. It doesn't make sense to me why you would want to lock your raw image into a certain look when you can do it in the most basic of post software nowadays but best of luck.
anaka
Member
well..all wath you say makes sense, i'm just documenting on this tecnique so still don't know wich way to take
usually I try to achieve the best possible directly in the footage then work it in post if needed, that makes a big difference in results
so for this reason my first attempt is to go in that way, now all of you suggest to do it directly in post, does the post processing way reach the same quality of a real T/S lens?
if it really is impossible to see the difference between a real lens effect and a post effect I'll be happy to save money, weight and so on
usually I try to achieve the best possible directly in the footage then work it in post if needed, that makes a big difference in results
so for this reason my first attempt is to go in that way, now all of you suggest to do it directly in post, does the post processing way reach the same quality of a real T/S lens?
if it really is impossible to see the difference between a real lens effect and a post effect I'll be happy to save money, weight and so on
if it really is impossible to see the difference between a real lens effect and a post effect I'll be happy to save money, weight and so on
it's an effect, the viewer sees what you want them to see, not saying it's impossible to see the difference, just that I don't think most people will.
anaka
Member
yes this makes sense but people feel when something is well done also when they are not expert, it is really hard to joke our eyes sometimes
BTW googling around it looks that the best way is post processing, but not with a simple mask...with a reconstruction of the depht informatios
this way the filtering will really bite the T/S lenses becouse you can overpass the phisical limits of lenses
the only problem is that this can be good for a still image...in the case of a video it becames a bit harder to rebuild depht informations
DucktileMedia
Drone Enthusiast
I bet the Lytro will have some good abilities for TS.
nicwilke
Active Member
Yeah, fake. Not even a dslr.